OldAdmin
Bench Warmer
So I was reading an article today on ESPN. Today Howard tied the strikeout record. How can a guy who is often included in great players be poised to set the Strike out record.
Why Ryan Howard shouldn't be considered an elite player in the MLB
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Bryan_Mc
HockeyJonesin'
he's not considered great along the lines of say ripken, gwynn,a-rod,etc. and i'm a phillies fan! he's sir whiffalot
DimeTimeSportscards
Bench Warmer
Look at the top strikeout leader of all time....a real no name....Reggie Jackson.....then #2 some guy named Sosa..... then you have Schmidt, Stargell and Thome in the top 10......
Howard may strike out but he sure can hit it a long, long way......
Howard may strike out but he sure can hit it a long, long way......
OldAdmin
Bench Warmer
Howard may strike out but he sure can hit it a long, long way......
Does it really matter how far you can hit it though, if it is out, it is out. You don't get bonus points for longer home runs.
Does it really matter how far you can hit it though, if it is out, it is out. You don't get bonus points for longer home runs.
Johan Santana #57
Bench Warmer
Ill disagree. Not all hitters hit for Avg, not all hit for power. Howard does not hit for contact. He goes for Doubles and HRs. hes an elite player of the players playing now, although he isnt even in the top 3 of 1B in the NL.
cardsfan06
Bench Warmer
Albert Pujols is the BEST 1st Baseman b/c he is good at defense and hits for contact and power with great average and low Strike outs.howard isnt all hes said to be
lafastbreak
Bench Warmer
your last statment isn't true, no ones said he hits for average they've said he's a great power hitter and an all star/mvp. thats what he is. I'm not a phillies fan but I can't think of anyone saying hes a good average hitter. He does what he needs to hit the long bomb and drive in runs.cardsfan06 said:
cardsfan06
Bench Warmer
edit I'm talking about pujols
lafastbreak
Bench Warmer
your last statement you said howards not all hes said to be did you not? no one ever said he hits for average. read before you type.cardsfan06 said:
OldAdmin
Bench Warmer
No need to get angry over it. Debate over baseball players is what makes it fun. Here is the thing I see with Howard. The guy has good power. But couldn't he work a little on swinging at the correct pitches to reduce the amount of strikeouts. That would make him that much better. As a pitcher it would be much harder to go up to the plate and know the guy won't swing at everything and to get him out you are going to have to throw a couple over the plate.
Johan Santana #57
Bench Warmer
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thats what makes Bonds the great hitter that he is. If you can be selective and hit the good pitches and lay off the bad ones, you are fine. But it isnt that easy since you have a split second. Thats why Bobby Abreu, Giambi, and others in their prime were amazing since they would still take their walks.
DimeTimeSportscards
Bench Warmer
Andruw Jones fits in the Sir Swing A Lot mold as well, has some great power but is not nearly as selective as he should be...
ac-n-mike
Bench Warmer
did he BREAK the record yet? or just TIE it?
Bryan_Mc
HockeyJonesin'
on the other hand, reggie jackson struck out 2597 times and sammy sosa struck out 2194 times, are these guys not among the greats?
OldAdmin
Bench Warmer
I don't think I would consider SOSA as a great one
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