meatmancgy
Bench Warmer
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Patch forger... caught!
This investigation by HI members has been ongoing for awhile now. Having evidence is always critical in finding a true forger, and we now have substantial enough information to send to eBay, Upper Deck and the RCMP, along with the eBay members who bought his forged cards. This is not defined as "fraud", but "forgery", under the Criminal Code of Canada. It will be interesting to see how this moves forward, but for now... this forger is CAUGHT.
Using at least two eBay IDs, this person has done several questionable purchases, forgeries and re-sells; however, I am showing ONLY those fake patch cards that are bulletproof obvious. There are about a dozen other auctions we have been watching... waiting for forged versions to show up. In some cases, he bought, forged & sold the cards under the same user ID (hnic_787); in other cases, he sold under the second ID (kao_seneca), likely to try and cover some tracks. His note in his auctions at the bottom says “I am a new Ebay seller, but I am honest and will try my best to provide the best service possible. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me, Bid with confidence! THANKS!” Honest, eh?
eBay contact information for one of the usernames, provided by an HI member, shows his full name & address; the other is listed under another name. After being provided emails from two different HI members on two different occasions, we were able to source the IP addresses of both eBay IDs, which are identical. As well, those IP addresses are linked directly to an HI membership IP address. Interestingly, the cell phones linked to both members’ eBay accounts were registered at the same cell phone shop in downtown Toronto. Just another nail in the coffin.
Here is the information we have to share:
Some evidence showing the two eBay IDs are likely the same person. Notice the way these somewhat identical cards are detailed:
06/07 UD The CUP SIG AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL - eBay (item 280320483252 end time Mar-09-09 21:43:56 PDT) “06/07 UD The CUP SIG AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”
UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL - eBay (item 170329622285 end time May-08-09 12:14:18 PDT) “UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”
EVIDENCE:
07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Evgeni Malkin 21/25
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220369075331
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 07/08 UD The CUP LIMITED LOGOS AUTO/PATCH MALKIN /25 4C - eBay (item 170329804511 end time May-14-09 19:24:58 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Patch/Auto Shea Weber 221/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220363089710
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06 UD The CUP Rookie AUTO/PATCH SHEA WEBER RC /249 5-CL - eBay (item 170330830808 end time May-17-09 17:06:17 PDT)
07/08 The Cup Signature Patches Patrick Kane 31/75
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: 260363130990 items on eBay.com
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 07 UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH PATRICK KANE /75 5C - eBay (item 280342320394 end time May-08-09 12:20:33 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Thomas Kopecky 146/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: 250374577238 items on eBay.com
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06 UD THE CUP ROOKIE AUTO/PATCH TOMAS KOPECKY RC /249 - eBay (item 280347056137 end time May-24-09 17:49:29 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Nigel Dawes 211/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: eBay Item #150326457987 (too old to link to, but a copy of the eBay auction is on file)
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06/07 UD THE CUP ROOKIE AUTO/PATCH NIGEL DAWES RC /249 - eBay (item 280347054952 end time May-24-09 17:44:01 PDT)
SOLD BY ANOTHER EBAY SELLER, BUT CONFIRMED THE CARD WAS PURCHASED FROM THIS PERSON PRIOR TO THIS SALE
07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Patrice Bergeron 41/50
Original Scan (zoomed in image provided from original seller)
Link to Original eBay Auction, purchased by this person:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190290449431
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction:
08 THE CUP P.Bergeron 5C Limited Logos Auto/Patch /50 - eBay (item 370193653533 end time May-03-09 16:24:15 PDT)
If any of you have been purchasers from either of these two eBay user IDs, please email me with the card scans and I can provide them to the appropriate parties. Thanks for the HI members who made most of these findings!!
Bruce
Patch forger... caught!
This investigation by HI members has been ongoing for awhile now. Having evidence is always critical in finding a true forger, and we now have substantial enough information to send to eBay, Upper Deck and the RCMP, along with the eBay members who bought his forged cards. This is not defined as "fraud", but "forgery", under the Criminal Code of Canada. It will be interesting to see how this moves forward, but for now... this forger is CAUGHT.
Using at least two eBay IDs, this person has done several questionable purchases, forgeries and re-sells; however, I am showing ONLY those fake patch cards that are bulletproof obvious. There are about a dozen other auctions we have been watching... waiting for forged versions to show up. In some cases, he bought, forged & sold the cards under the same user ID (hnic_787); in other cases, he sold under the second ID (kao_seneca), likely to try and cover some tracks. His note in his auctions at the bottom says “I am a new Ebay seller, but I am honest and will try my best to provide the best service possible. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me, Bid with confidence! THANKS!” Honest, eh?
eBay contact information for one of the usernames, provided by an HI member, shows his full name & address; the other is listed under another name. After being provided emails from two different HI members on two different occasions, we were able to source the IP addresses of both eBay IDs, which are identical. As well, those IP addresses are linked directly to an HI membership IP address. Interestingly, the cell phones linked to both members’ eBay accounts were registered at the same cell phone shop in downtown Toronto. Just another nail in the coffin.
Here is the information we have to share:
Some evidence showing the two eBay IDs are likely the same person. Notice the way these somewhat identical cards are detailed:
06/07 UD The CUP SIG AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL - eBay (item 280320483252 end time Mar-09-09 21:43:56 PDT) “06/07 UD The CUP SIG AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”
UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL - eBay (item 170329622285 end time May-08-09 12:14:18 PDT) “UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”
EVIDENCE:
07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Evgeni Malkin 21/25
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220369075331
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 07/08 UD The CUP LIMITED LOGOS AUTO/PATCH MALKIN /25 4C - eBay (item 170329804511 end time May-14-09 19:24:58 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Patch/Auto Shea Weber 221/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220363089710
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06 UD The CUP Rookie AUTO/PATCH SHEA WEBER RC /249 5-CL - eBay (item 170330830808 end time May-17-09 17:06:17 PDT)
07/08 The Cup Signature Patches Patrick Kane 31/75
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: 260363130990 items on eBay.com
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 07 UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH PATRICK KANE /75 5C - eBay (item 280342320394 end time May-08-09 12:20:33 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Thomas Kopecky 146/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: 250374577238 items on eBay.com
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06 UD THE CUP ROOKIE AUTO/PATCH TOMAS KOPECKY RC /249 - eBay (item 280347056137 end time May-24-09 17:49:29 PDT)
06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Nigel Dawes 211/249
Original Scan
Link to Original eBay Auction: eBay Item #150326457987 (too old to link to, but a copy of the eBay auction is on file)
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction: 06/07 UD THE CUP ROOKIE AUTO/PATCH NIGEL DAWES RC /249 - eBay (item 280347054952 end time May-24-09 17:44:01 PDT)
SOLD BY ANOTHER EBAY SELLER, BUT CONFIRMED THE CARD WAS PURCHASED FROM THIS PERSON PRIOR TO THIS SALE
07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Patrice Bergeron 41/50
Original Scan (zoomed in image provided from original seller)
Link to Original eBay Auction, purchased by this person:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190290449431
Altered Scan
Link to Altered eBay Auction:
08 THE CUP P.Bergeron 5C Limited Logos Auto/Patch /50 - eBay (item 370193653533 end time May-03-09 16:24:15 PDT)
If any of you have been purchasers from either of these two eBay user IDs, please email me with the card scans and I can provide them to the appropriate parties. Thanks for the HI members who made most of these findings!!
Bruce
