I brought up the past because vets said they are always an embarrassment. I never said they were doing well now, all I said is that at least they act with honor. No matter how well Notre Dame does I will always be proud to be a fan because of the way they compete, unfortunately I can't say the same about USC. Notre Dame does it right and if they go through a rough patch so be it, at least they care about the student more than the athlete. Notre Dame teaches their athletes more than just spots, they teach them how to be valuable members of society. In the end I just dont see that in what USC does, as exampled by some of their alum.