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Really curious..
Not here, but NBA and NBA Card community of my country ...
There are too many LBJ addicted guys.
They always say "LBJ will over MJ.."
The more ridiclous comment is "LBJ was over MJ".
I think that is non-sense..at least now.
I have not been MJ and LBJ fan both..
And I don't deny LBJ is one of the craziest guy in NBA History.
But he didn't get any achive like Final MVP or Champs yet.
(Of course, it is really possible he will but not yet..)
And LBJ has not been dominant like MJ.
I can't forget MJ's crazy activity only in his only sophomore season.
(1986 PO)
It was PO game and Opponent was Crazy Celtics.
(One of the best Team ever in history.
Dennis Johnson - Danny Ainge - Larry Bird - Kevin McHale and Robert Parish..-> Bench : not perfect but Bill Walton..kidding?lol)
He scored around 60..
Yes he lost but If I were not wrong, there was only Charles Oakley at Bulls.
Yes.. LBJ is H.S. Players...and MJ was from UNC.
SO It would be the same season his 4th season and MJ's 2nd season.
But even LBJ's 4th season was not like MJ.
MJs improved his team with nice players(like Pip, Grant, Armstrong and Cartwright) and over Crazy Bad Boys Pistons.
(Before that, he lost against Bad Boys..)
One of the most crazy game (IMO) was VS Blazers 1991 Final Game # 1.
Scoring gap was around 40 pts. Drexler, Porter and Cliff Robinson naerly gave up that game.
LBJ Addcited guys always CAVS is one-man team. there is no one to support LBJ. SO LBJ can't get anything. But that's not true.
Z-MAN, Mo-Will, Delonte ,Wally(not good but not bad) are less NBA level?
Rather part of them are very nice role player and bench...
And even if that is true, it would be worse.
Look back to Allen Iverson of 2001 Final. Then LBJ is worse than AI?
Not the same but similar crazy legend is Hakeem Olajuwon, IMO.
Olajuwon + Sampson won over Magic+ Jabbar but lost against Celtics.
(The same season of above MJ's match-up)
Another example is Magic Johnson.
When he was rookie, he went final(of course not all his effort.but with Jabbar) then he scored over 40 pts as Center Position and got Final MVP.
LBJ did like that? no..
How about Larry Legend.
IMO, Larry Legend is the greatest player of SF position in NBA history.
(not LBJ.)
The reason why 80,90's players are Greater than now a days, because of their opponent and league trend.
At that time, there were many rivaly and really many tough players there.
SO I think that is the reason why MJ is beyond level then 2000's.
(VS Magic, Bird and Zeke)
I tell you again. I don't deny LBJ will be improved more and more and become the craziest...I'm not hater.
The point is why LBJ addicted guys always insist LBJ is better than MJ, Larry Legend and Magic ? Even showing those(above) facts..
I have also seen Kobe addicted guys but that is only really really a few than LBJ addicted guys.
(They tell "Kobe is already over MJ". lol)
As my humble OP, there is 2 possibility.
1)They didn't watch any film of MJ or 1950 ~ 1990's
So they would not know about that.
2) LBJ card collector as LBJ addicted
(It means they don't think other legend except LBJ.
and LBJ is always right and the best.)
They think LBJ cards have to be skyrocketing because those are LBJ cards.
I saw a few funny guy(not here. but my country), Even LBJ EXQ rookie is too cheap so it has to be go more and more. and this is the time to buy those. lol
They think the league as card. For Example, 1980's and 1990's is just kidding. SO price of MJ rookie is like that. and post-2000(Not Millenium.lol Millenium - Duncan n SHAQ era) is real league..Old players is just kidding.
The reason why Chamberlain was scored 100 pts , that league was really poor not like now a days, LBJ, Melo, Wade and Bosh..
(Funnily they always up and up class of 2003. Actually, there is only a few crazy players(LBJ,Melo and Wade) in that class not whole class is great.)
How about you?
P.S. : Aim of This thread is not despising, bashing and find fault with something and someone. Just really really really curious.
Because LBJ Addicted guys tell always "what if" like Greg Oden addicted.
like " If LBJ has CP3 , LBJ would win 10 rings..." wow.. speechless.
I have never seen any SHAQ fans like this.
"SHAQ is already over Bill Russell"..I have never and never seen that.
But why only LBJ?
besides greg oden addicted guys " If Oden is really healthy, he is next partrick Ewing" lol => Yes he would be patrick Ewing JR. not NYK's Ewing, but Ewing's son..lol
Not here, but NBA and NBA Card community of my country ...
There are too many LBJ addicted guys.
They always say "LBJ will over MJ.."
The more ridiclous comment is "LBJ was over MJ".
I think that is non-sense..at least now.
I have not been MJ and LBJ fan both..
And I don't deny LBJ is one of the craziest guy in NBA History.
But he didn't get any achive like Final MVP or Champs yet.
(Of course, it is really possible he will but not yet..)
And LBJ has not been dominant like MJ.
I can't forget MJ's crazy activity only in his only sophomore season.
(1986 PO)
It was PO game and Opponent was Crazy Celtics.
(One of the best Team ever in history.
Dennis Johnson - Danny Ainge - Larry Bird - Kevin McHale and Robert Parish..-> Bench : not perfect but Bill Walton..kidding?lol)
He scored around 60..
Yes he lost but If I were not wrong, there was only Charles Oakley at Bulls.
Yes.. LBJ is H.S. Players...and MJ was from UNC.
SO It would be the same season his 4th season and MJ's 2nd season.
But even LBJ's 4th season was not like MJ.
MJs improved his team with nice players(like Pip, Grant, Armstrong and Cartwright) and over Crazy Bad Boys Pistons.
(Before that, he lost against Bad Boys..)
One of the most crazy game (IMO) was VS Blazers 1991 Final Game # 1.
Scoring gap was around 40 pts. Drexler, Porter and Cliff Robinson naerly gave up that game.
LBJ Addcited guys always CAVS is one-man team. there is no one to support LBJ. SO LBJ can't get anything. But that's not true.
Z-MAN, Mo-Will, Delonte ,Wally(not good but not bad) are less NBA level?
Rather part of them are very nice role player and bench...
And even if that is true, it would be worse.
Look back to Allen Iverson of 2001 Final. Then LBJ is worse than AI?
Not the same but similar crazy legend is Hakeem Olajuwon, IMO.
Olajuwon + Sampson won over Magic+ Jabbar but lost against Celtics.
(The same season of above MJ's match-up)
Another example is Magic Johnson.
When he was rookie, he went final(of course not all his effort.but with Jabbar) then he scored over 40 pts as Center Position and got Final MVP.
LBJ did like that? no..
How about Larry Legend.
IMO, Larry Legend is the greatest player of SF position in NBA history.
(not LBJ.)
The reason why 80,90's players are Greater than now a days, because of their opponent and league trend.
At that time, there were many rivaly and really many tough players there.
SO I think that is the reason why MJ is beyond level then 2000's.
(VS Magic, Bird and Zeke)
I tell you again. I don't deny LBJ will be improved more and more and become the craziest...I'm not hater.
The point is why LBJ addicted guys always insist LBJ is better than MJ, Larry Legend and Magic ? Even showing those(above) facts..
I have also seen Kobe addicted guys but that is only really really a few than LBJ addicted guys.
(They tell "Kobe is already over MJ". lol)
As my humble OP, there is 2 possibility.
1)They didn't watch any film of MJ or 1950 ~ 1990's
So they would not know about that.
2) LBJ card collector as LBJ addicted
(It means they don't think other legend except LBJ.
and LBJ is always right and the best.)
They think LBJ cards have to be skyrocketing because those are LBJ cards.
I saw a few funny guy(not here. but my country), Even LBJ EXQ rookie is too cheap so it has to be go more and more. and this is the time to buy those. lol
They think the league as card. For Example, 1980's and 1990's is just kidding. SO price of MJ rookie is like that. and post-2000(Not Millenium.lol Millenium - Duncan n SHAQ era) is real league..Old players is just kidding.
The reason why Chamberlain was scored 100 pts , that league was really poor not like now a days, LBJ, Melo, Wade and Bosh..
(Funnily they always up and up class of 2003. Actually, there is only a few crazy players(LBJ,Melo and Wade) in that class not whole class is great.)
How about you?
P.S. : Aim of This thread is not despising, bashing and find fault with something and someone. Just really really really curious.
Because LBJ Addicted guys tell always "what if" like Greg Oden addicted.
like " If LBJ has CP3 , LBJ would win 10 rings..." wow.. speechless.
I have never seen any SHAQ fans like this.
"SHAQ is already over Bill Russell"..I have never and never seen that.
But why only LBJ?
besides greg oden addicted guys " If Oden is really healthy, he is next partrick Ewing" lol => Yes he would be patrick Ewing JR. not NYK's Ewing, but Ewing's son..lol
