My dad has had shingles before and when he started having a rash that hurt and itched she knew what it was. She dragged him to Kaiser urgent care and he saw this middle eastern MD who told her not to talk. My dad has trouble discribing what is wrong so he made her go in. The guy went shingles hurt they don't itch she said they itched before. He said they don't expand in that direction she said they went up his shoulder blade before. He finally gave up and ordered an antiviral. He made it the strongest one around with 5 times a day for ten days. His Md had said this was very strong and only take it three times a day. She thinks he will end up killing a patient.:doh: